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host and I am excited to bring on

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tonight on the premiere of season four

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Brandon fugle from The Secret of skin

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lucky enough

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to do what I do and to be able to get

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the screener so I was able to watch

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episode one which premieres tonight at 9

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on History Channel and uh again I'm

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really excited to have uh Brandon Fuego

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on and I'm going to play the trailer for

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the show uh coming up the closer that we

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are getting to the answers the more

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covert military activity continues what

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is the military doing flying over skin

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walker Ranch someone's taking an

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interest in what we're doing

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somebody's up on the ridge right there

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this is the largest scale experiment

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that we've ever done here so far fire

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there's something in the sky

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The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch new

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season Tuesday April 18th at 10. on the

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I think I said the times when it started

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backwards but they'll figure it out

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right Brandon welcome to the show again

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yeah it's good to be with you and thank

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you for following our journey tonight is

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uh is the Epic launch of our season four

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uh which which is the the documentary

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effort following our real life

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investigation out at Skinwalker Ranch

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that's right and you know not a lot of

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shows like this make it four seasons and

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so that's how popular this is of you

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know people I know that are not

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interested in UFOs or I didn't even know

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they're interested in any type of

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paranormal type of situations love that

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show well we we keep this grounded you

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know I I acquired Skinwalker Ranch back

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in 2016 as a skeptic I never intended to

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reveal my identity as the owner and you

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know after years of persistence

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uh and then over a year from the History

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Channel and their producers I finally

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agreed to at least take a meeting under

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confidentiality and and uh was

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ultimately convinced to open the gates

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and allow

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some of the finest doctor documentary

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film uh professionals on the planet uh

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inside our investigation which which is

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year round and has continued for now

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seven years documenting the reality the

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phenomenon Skinwalker Ranch yeah no

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regrets I bet

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ah it's been it's been an interesting

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learning experience

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um uh quite a roller coaster quite a

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departure from what I what I am involved

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in all day every day which is commercial

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real estate and various entrepreneurial

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Pursuits uh you know the investigation

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at Skinwalker Ranch is uh

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has is proven to be uh not only uh

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quite mysterious as far as what we've

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been able to document but uh has has

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really pulled together my team in a way

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that I would have I would have never

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ever anticipated it it really is a

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historic moment uh to to be able to

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present these things to the general

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public and allow them kind of a seat uh

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as we as we conduct I think some of the

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most aggressive research and scientific

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investigation uh relative to these

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well I hope you haven't lost out on any

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deals concentrating on this anymore

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no I'm still we have other people

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covering when you're gone that type of

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situation oh yeah well still working

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typical typically 16 to 18 hour days

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focused on selling and leasing office

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take time only when necessary to be

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briefed on the uh the activities out at

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this uh this 512 acre piece of property

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that has become the center of more UFO

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sightings you know bizarre cattle

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mutilations in the past and other

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strange phenomena

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now when the the adjoining the abutters

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are any of the abutters that of the

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property there uh you know trying to

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also capitalize in some type of I'm not

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saying that that's what you're doing but

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are they trying to capitalize on what

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you're doing in the on the skin walker

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some people some some efforts to try to

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exploit

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uh what we are what we are doing but we

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not to be distracted by by anything on

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the on the periphery or or that which

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try to sensationalize it I mean what

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we're doing as Sensational as it is it's

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it's really grounded in in real events

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and real research that my team has been

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conducting for years uh and so I we we

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continue to be laser focused in spite of

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some of the distractions that pop up

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once in a while now uh George Knapp's

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book hunt for the skinwalker uh the

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pseudonym Gorman uh was given for Terry

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Sherman and I'm wondering uh this is a

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he's wondered if you have ever spoken

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through intermediaries with Gwen Sherman

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with Terry's wife but the Sherman family

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has uh has asked to be left alone uh

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that people respect their privacy and I

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have uh I've done so I've I've tried to

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respect their privacy and uh appreciate

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that they had enough courage you know

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decades ago to come forward with

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the reality of what they were

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experiencing that ultimately led to

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their sale of the property to Robert

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Bigelow Bigelow Aerospace right and how

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difficult would you say it is these days

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to keep people away from the gate I mean

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it's always a challenge even with our

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surveillance platforms I mean we have

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cameras uh and and you know we have a

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whole gated entrance guard shack you

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intrigued interested but there is danger

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we we keep our security protocols in

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place and and frankly do not allow the

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public inside or any Public tours of any

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there you know there have been events

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sent people to the hospital with strange

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illnesses and injuries and right and we

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are also conducting a very sensitive

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scientific investigation introducing

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anything outside into that environment

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and always poses a risk of uh of

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disrupting something that may be

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ongoing with an experiment or a specific

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research activity so uh I think it's

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important for people to realize this is

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a this is an active living laboratory

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this property has been locked down for

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27 years and secure has been the subject

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of of of investigation and focus uh

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during that period of time and we we've

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scientific platforms that uh that you

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deploying in service to documenting the

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the phenomena and what we're

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uh what was that I was trying to

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attend many of the events that occur

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um and in that's part of what we

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continue to investigate and explore uh

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you know what is what is very

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interesting about the events at

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times they're they're correlating events

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episodes or at least people feeling you

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know something or experiencing something

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physically when you have all of those

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to the phenomena on these topics and and

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episode one do you plan on or you

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probably already filmed or I don't know

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if it's in the can already or you're

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filming but do you plan on or are you in

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a lot of this uh season uh yeah

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periodically as needed uh I'll come out

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and and and be briefed on uh some of the

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experiments even participate as uh as

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appropriate and as I'm available

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uh in in some of the research activities

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and the experiments but I I really do

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and the Third Party credentialed Experts

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that we bring on site to uh to really

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return and report I mean I I'm the

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steward the owner of the property but I

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multi-disciplinary group of people that

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mean several of the the individuals

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involved which were hand-picked

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scientist Eric Bard I've worked with for

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going on 13 years relative to

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to various Endeavors I mean this is of

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course the most unusual uh most of his

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background was involved with plasma

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physics and uh and you know Optical

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physics but uh he uh he's he's been a

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remarkable uh resource and and frankly a

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uh leader when it comes to establishing

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the right tone and the right type of uh

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uh scientific platforms and protocols

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that we have in place and have had in

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place for a long time long before any

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docu-series effort uh which of course

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went public in 2020 we we were

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we were taking data and uh developing a

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uh data set uh in order to better

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Blackhawk so the Blackhawk helicopter

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that obviously has been shown in the

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experimental activities that we are

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conducting out there uh my helicopter

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which is an Airbus h-130 I think it's

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the most advanced civilian helicopter in

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the state is is of course deployed in

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service to to some of the experimental

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activity and the research that we are

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conducting which which I don't take

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lightly I mean we're putting not only a

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very expensive piece of equipment at

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risk but more importantly we're putting

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my brother who is a full-time pilot with

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over 9 000 hours who is fully rated jet

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and helicopter pilot wow uh in in a

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position of uh of I think trying to

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navigate his way through some of these

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experiments that uh yeah that can be can

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be quite uh quite intense I know we

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can't give away too much but there is

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some scenes in episode one and the

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helicopter that are pretty amazing you

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know my son uh watched the screener with

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me and my producer the other night and

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my son is basically a skeptic he thinks

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a little more about UFO since I've

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showed him some really compelling cases

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but still he's more or less a skeptic

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and he's sitting there going wow well

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like that you know when we watched

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episode one there was a lot of things

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that and he thought it was a great show

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well let him know I was a skeptic too I

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I when I acquired the ranch I acquired

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the ranch as a as a healthy skeptic but

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someone who had never seen a UFO or a

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ghost or an orb or you know anything

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like that and uh and I believed that

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there was a natural explanation for the

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phenomena for the the

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the events reported you know and I was

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very surprised to find in time that

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there there was absolute validity too

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much of what

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what was uh what was reported and even

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though we are dealing with an inherited

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narrative

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uh

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we we are trying always to be led by the

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data and and we allow our research our

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investigation to be led by the data uh

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as opposed to just a bunch of spooky

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stories or anecdotal accounts uh as much

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as those are part of the the historical

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record and maybe important uh we're

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trying to be disciplined in the way

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we're going about this but it is crazy

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uh the ranch is something that uh I

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think catches everyone off guard

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um anyone who's come out there for any

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extended period of time ends up uh

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experiencing something whether it be

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completely unexplained uh equipment

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malfunctions

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uh electromagnetic anomalies are seeing

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literally UFO or UAP

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uh in the sky above the property and

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these aren't satellites it's not people

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getting out yeah night night vision uh

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and and and mistaking something for this

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you know starlink I mean these are very

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real events that attend some of our

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research and experimental activities

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that that are very difficult to account

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for or even explain

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you know the a lot of times it seems

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like some of the hot spots for say UFOs

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I'm talking mostly but a lot of times

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there's you know there's like uh copper

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deposits and you know certain different

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things geographically in areas and what

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would you uh I mean you know this may be

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a question for one of the scientists

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there but what would is there anything

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unique about the property as far as

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Metals Metals deposits or anything like

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that that you're a good question good

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question one of the things that I

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obtained early on the very beginning

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when I acquired the property was a soil

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study relative to the property it was uh

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it was very comprehensive nothing

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unusual noted in that soil study as as

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things have happened and as as we have

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documented

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uh our efforts we've brought

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environmental Consultants I mean qualtec

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uh semper environmental uh guideline Geo

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I mean a number of very credentialed

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third-party

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expert firms to test the environment to

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test the soil uh and and test the uh the

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ranch to see if there is a natural

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explanation is there is there some type

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of radioactive material stored on the

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property or something that is that you

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can assign cause to and the the

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disturbing thing is that in every case

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they found that whatever is creating

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this is is transient

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it's uh transient in nature and uh yeah

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with with one exception and that is as

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as we have delved into the Mesa and

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explored the uh the Earth there to just

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to see if there is anything unusual we

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have we've had surprising results uh

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anyone who has been following our

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journey knows that we pulled out of the

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Mesa I mean 400 feet

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into the depths of this Mesa Plateau we

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pulled out uh

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metallic

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uh

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objects I mean that that according to

402
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experts is not naturally occurring

403
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as far as its composition that has been

404
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very very intriguing and the events that

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have occurred in tandem with that

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digging activity I mean we're talking

407
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about just crazy equipment malfunctions

408
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and failures and even one of our team

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ended up having a cardiac

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uh arrest had it had had an incident a

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health incident that occurred

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simultaneous with some of our most

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aggressive digging activity and had to

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be run to the emergency room uh there's

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something going on there is some

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something I think that uh that Lies

417
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Beneath this property as well as above

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the property that's that

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devise any any conventional explanation

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uh and we're we're trying to get to the

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bottom of it

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right going back to you mentioned

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Bigelow

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um earlier who whom you bought the ranch

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from

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um so he was involved basically it was

427
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sort of a government situation the

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Pentagon was involved am I getting this

429
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right with funding at least for research

430
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there yeah the ranch yeah the ranch was

431
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was at the center of the pentagon-funded

432
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black budget program between 2008 and I

433
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believe 2013 when that concluded and was

434
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terminated uh Mr Bigelow has has

435
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remained uh fairly tight-lipped relative

436
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to you know what was documented uh that

437
00:19:46,490 --> 00:19:43,820
is either confidential or classified

438
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uh when I acquired the ranch I acquired

439
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it with no data with with nothing turned

440
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over and really started with a clean

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slate

442
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and frankly I'm thankful for that I

443
00:19:59,450 --> 00:19:55,860
believe that starting you know with a

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with with the clean Baseline and a a new

445
00:20:07,070 --> 00:20:03,720
team uh that was skeptical I mean my my

446
00:20:10,549 --> 00:20:07,080
principal investigator my chief

447
00:20:13,490 --> 00:20:10,559
scientist came on the property as a as

448
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an absolute skeptic a Critic he believed

449
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that there was a natural explanation and

450
00:20:22,909 --> 00:20:20,640
was determined to uh to prove that there

451
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was some type of any luminous phenomena

452
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was was naturally caused and that that

453
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maybe the geology itself somehow uh was

454
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involved with creating some of the

455
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events and even hallucinations that uh

456
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that that people were were claiming

457
00:20:42,169 --> 00:20:39,900
could be could be involved and what we

458
00:20:44,750 --> 00:20:42,179
found is that it that really isn't the

459
00:20:47,810 --> 00:20:44,760
case I would love to have some type of

460
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mundane natural explanation uh but what

461
00:20:54,710 --> 00:20:50,940
we have witnessed is anything but

462
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right uh don't you think it's rather odd

463
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that

464
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the government had an involvement it's

465
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one time and now they're surveilling

466
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you know do you think they're just

467
00:21:08,890 --> 00:21:06,380
curious what's ongoing well

468
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these are unmarked

469
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helicopters that are not transponding

470
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so not transponding yeah wow

471
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and and you've seen this in the past in

472
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some cases but I don't want to I've got

473
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to be very careful because all will be

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revealed but uh I'm telling you it is

475
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it's it is very mysterious and

476
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suspicious and and it's concerning the

477
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timing associated with the surveillance

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activity and the fact that it

479
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corresponds with some of the most

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dramatic events that have occurred

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and it's it's quite sobering I mean and

482
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I think it at times my team has felt

483
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like they've been placed In Harm's Way

484
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huh wow uh here's a question from the

485
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chat room from Stephen why would Bigelow

486
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sell a magic Ranch

487
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well at the time I was I was I was under

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the the assumption that he was too busy

489
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and grown very very much

490
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um involved with his Aerospace Endeavors

491
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you know really positioning to be the

492
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real estate developer of space he bought

493
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the the space habitats program from

494
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Nasser the Inflatables yeah program and

495
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I think he was he was working very

496
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aggressively to to

497
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deploy that and work with NASA and other

498
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Enterprises like SpaceX to uh to advance

499
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those Endeavors but I I think as time

500
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has gone by it it has been revealed that

501
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Mr Bigelow had some negative experiences

502
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or at least attributed some of the

503
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negative experiences that he had to his

504
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ownership of the ranch and I think that

505
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was that was a motivation for ultimately

506
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selling it to me was to

507
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to not only pass the stewardship but to

508
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rid himself of uh you know some of the

509
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negative aspects uh that he encountered

510
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associated with his ownership and are

511
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you feeling any of those no no I've been

512
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fortunate I uh I have not had

513
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Poltergeist phenomena

514
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The Hitchhiker effect or anything like

515
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that follow me home personally I've been

516
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I've been very fortunate uh that I I

517
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have not experienced that I I've

518
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witnessed uh just

519
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extraordinary things on the property but

520
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I have not had anything

521
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follow me home

522
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have you ever been like actually scared

523
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yes there have been a number of times

524
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where

525
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I was overcome with absolute Terror hmm

526
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uh on the property

527
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uh and

528
00:24:05,510 --> 00:24:01,799
these were not just at night during

529
00:24:06,529 --> 00:24:05,520
nighttime events uh you know some of the

530
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most

531
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uh

532
00:24:18,430 --> 00:24:13,549
incidents have occurred in broad

533
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daylight and and at the most

534
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unexpected times

535
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so yes honestly I have I I've

536
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experienced fear Terror

537
00:24:35,029 --> 00:24:31,679
unlike anything else in my life hmm wow

538
00:24:35,750 --> 00:24:35,039
prior to the ranch while I've been out

539
00:24:37,730 --> 00:24:35,760
there

540
00:24:40,310 --> 00:24:37,740
well on a dare I would not sleep

541
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overnight under the stars there and

542
00:24:44,930 --> 00:24:42,600
there's no way I would yeah I mean I'd

543
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be absolutely petrified too but well I

544
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don't know I I have to also say I I went

545
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six months the first six months of my

546
00:24:54,590 --> 00:24:51,720
ownership I didn't I didn't experience

547
00:24:56,930 --> 00:24:54,600
anything unusual or negative and I was

548
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going out there regularly for briefings

549
00:25:01,370 --> 00:24:59,400
and to to check on what was happening

550
00:25:02,990 --> 00:25:01,380
with the ranch and uh

551
00:25:07,750 --> 00:25:03,000
and

552
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strikingly beautiful

553
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landscape in place but it was only after

554
00:25:16,730 --> 00:25:14,280
a six you know six month period that uh

555
00:25:19,789 --> 00:25:16,740
that I ended up having my own

556
00:25:22,610 --> 00:25:19,799
uh undeniable experience with Witnesses

557
00:25:25,130 --> 00:25:22,620
at my side and that was game changing

558
00:25:26,990 --> 00:25:25,140
for me so I tell people all the time I

559
00:25:30,110 --> 00:25:27,000
even told the History Channel when we

560
00:25:32,630 --> 00:25:30,120
convinced uh uh you know really filming

561
00:25:35,330 --> 00:25:32,640
the docu-series that they could very

562
00:25:39,789 --> 00:25:35,340
well come out and film for three to four

563
00:25:42,890 --> 00:25:39,799
months and not get anything unusual uh

564
00:25:44,630 --> 00:25:42,900
this is totally unpredictable and

565
00:25:49,909 --> 00:25:44,640
historically it's had that situation

566
00:25:51,890 --> 00:25:49,919
happen yeah prolonged stretches and what

567
00:25:53,510 --> 00:25:51,900
if you don't mind what was that

568
00:25:58,010 --> 00:25:53,520
experience

569
00:26:01,789 --> 00:25:58,020
uh uh it it was uh UFO sighting in broad

570
00:26:05,390 --> 00:26:01,799
daylight October 14th of 2016 at four

571
00:26:09,230 --> 00:26:05,400
o'clock in the afternoon I was uh

572
00:26:10,549 --> 00:26:09,240
I was hosting a dignitary that had two

573
00:26:14,630 --> 00:26:10,559
security

574
00:26:16,669 --> 00:26:14,640
uh people with him to to uh to watch it

575
00:26:19,430 --> 00:26:16,679
after him and both of those individuals

576
00:26:22,909 --> 00:26:19,440
profess their skepticism as I did early

577
00:26:24,190 --> 00:26:22,919
in the day and we found ourselves in

578
00:26:27,590 --> 00:26:24,200
late afternoon

579
00:26:31,430 --> 00:26:27,600
witnessing all simultaneously what can

580
00:26:34,070 --> 00:26:31,440
only be described as a a UFO a craft 40

581
00:26:36,409 --> 00:26:34,080
to 50 foot long silver grayish disc like

582
00:26:39,830 --> 00:26:36,419
object that was hovering right above the

583
00:26:41,690 --> 00:26:39,840
Mesa in front of us and maneuvered with

584
00:26:43,730 --> 00:26:41,700
split second speed

585
00:26:46,549 --> 00:26:43,740
and uh

586
00:26:49,970 --> 00:26:46,559
and within about 20 seconds after

587
00:26:54,230 --> 00:26:49,980
darting about and uh

588
00:26:56,330 --> 00:26:54,240
and just leaving us shocked it was gone

589
00:26:59,450 --> 00:26:56,340
the whole event lasted about 20 seconds

590
00:27:03,049 --> 00:26:59,460
and then it was over but it it changed

591
00:27:06,890 --> 00:27:03,059
me from a healthy skeptic to not just a

592
00:27:09,470 --> 00:27:06,900
believer but an experiencer yeah and uh

593
00:27:12,769 --> 00:27:09,480
from that point forward I I was

594
00:27:16,549 --> 00:27:12,779
determined to invest the resources

595
00:27:18,470 --> 00:27:16,559
uh into really understanding the nature

596
00:27:21,289 --> 00:27:18,480
of what is happening

597
00:27:23,510 --> 00:27:21,299
on this uh this mysterious piece of

598
00:27:25,370 --> 00:27:23,520
property this 512 Acres that is out in

599
00:27:28,130 --> 00:27:25,380
the middle of nowhere out in the middle

600
00:27:29,690 --> 00:27:28,140
of the Uinta Basin surrounded by tribal

601
00:27:32,450 --> 00:27:29,700
property

602
00:27:35,870 --> 00:27:32,460
if you were to I mean it's only a

603
00:27:36,830 --> 00:27:35,880
speculative question but why do you

604
00:27:40,850 --> 00:27:36,840
think

605
00:27:45,169 --> 00:27:43,070
uh we don't know that's one thing that

606
00:27:46,610 --> 00:27:45,179
we're trying to get to the bottom of is

607
00:27:50,049 --> 00:27:46,620
uh

608
00:27:53,510 --> 00:27:50,059
is really why this place and why is

609
00:27:57,049 --> 00:27:53,520
Skinwalker Ranch experiencing this

610
00:27:59,330 --> 00:27:57,059
activity uh is it the geology I mean it

611
00:28:01,850 --> 00:27:59,340
is right in the dead center of the Uinta

612
00:28:04,990 --> 00:28:01,860
Basin which is a big bull which is is

613
00:28:07,789 --> 00:28:05,000
truly a basin-like formation out there

614
00:28:09,649 --> 00:28:07,799
uh you know that may

615
00:28:11,990 --> 00:28:09,659
that may have something to do with it

616
00:28:13,789 --> 00:28:12,000
and that's something that we discuss

617
00:28:16,610 --> 00:28:13,799
um in our research and even on the

618
00:28:18,529 --> 00:28:16,620
series but uh we're not quite sure that

619
00:28:22,130 --> 00:28:18,539
it may it may have something to do with

620
00:28:24,950 --> 00:28:22,140
uh uh what is buried in the Mesa we

621
00:28:28,070 --> 00:28:24,960
believe that there may be something uh

622
00:28:31,250 --> 00:28:28,080
unusual on the property that is a

623
00:28:32,690 --> 00:28:31,260
contributing factor that is that is you

624
00:28:36,289 --> 00:28:32,700
know part of the

625
00:28:38,210 --> 00:28:36,299
the Catalyst if you will uh I mean we've

626
00:28:41,149 --> 00:28:38,220
we've had scientists that have

627
00:28:44,049 --> 00:28:41,159
speculated that there are portals on the

628
00:28:47,750 --> 00:28:44,059
property right we've had I mean GPS

629
00:28:49,610 --> 00:28:47,760
malfunctions uh all sorts of as I

630
00:28:53,870 --> 00:28:49,620
mentioned electromagnetic anomalies that

631
00:28:55,610 --> 00:28:53,880
defy any explanation to date and even I

632
00:28:58,789 --> 00:28:55,620
mean we have compasses that just without

633
00:29:02,570 --> 00:28:58,799
without warning will start spinning uh

634
00:29:05,049 --> 00:29:02,580
and and these are Analog Devices that uh

635
00:29:08,409 --> 00:29:05,059
that malfunction as well as Samsung

636
00:29:11,870 --> 00:29:08,419
Galaxy and iPhone devices that

637
00:29:15,529 --> 00:29:11,880
simultaneously end up uh malfunctioning

638
00:29:19,490 --> 00:29:15,539
and and wigging out uh all captured on

639
00:29:21,230 --> 00:29:19,500
camera and and uh yeah there is

640
00:29:24,049 --> 00:29:21,240
something definitely going on that is

641
00:29:26,149 --> 00:29:24,059
very very unusual and there's other you

642
00:29:28,549 --> 00:29:26,159
know there's other places but you know I

643
00:29:31,250 --> 00:29:28,559
would say the most talked about for many

644
00:29:33,830 --> 00:29:31,260
uh years well that that I've been

645
00:29:35,750 --> 00:29:33,840
looking into this topic has been the

646
00:29:37,549 --> 00:29:35,760
Skinwalker Ranch there are some people

647
00:29:40,549 --> 00:29:37,559
that say well that's a Skinwalker Ranch

648
00:29:42,769 --> 00:29:40,559
of you know uh Georgia or you know I

649
00:29:45,950 --> 00:29:42,779
mean they'll they'll they'll have areas

650
00:29:49,190 --> 00:29:45,960
where all these odd you know things seem

651
00:29:52,430 --> 00:29:49,200
to happen which is uh which is really

652
00:29:54,529 --> 00:29:52,440
you know uh quite amazing and you know

653
00:29:56,810 --> 00:29:54,539
hard to figure

654
00:29:58,750 --> 00:29:56,820
um the Shermans before you know they

655
00:30:00,950 --> 00:29:58,760
bought that ranch

656
00:30:03,769 --> 00:30:00,960
are you aware I don't remember reading

657
00:30:05,389 --> 00:30:03,779
in George Knapp's book of the previous

658
00:30:08,090 --> 00:30:05,399
owners

659
00:30:10,070 --> 00:30:08,100
you know reporting any type of situation

660
00:30:12,889 --> 00:30:10,080
I wonder if anyone tried to look them up

661
00:30:15,110 --> 00:30:12,899
and interview them sure well the Myers

662
00:30:17,990 --> 00:30:15,120
Kenneth and Edith Myers

663
00:30:20,570 --> 00:30:18,000
who owned the ranch for decades before

664
00:30:23,330 --> 00:30:20,580
selling it uh before their

665
00:30:26,450 --> 00:30:23,340
their it was really their

666
00:30:28,430 --> 00:30:26,460
their brother-in-law that ended up

667
00:30:30,649 --> 00:30:28,440
selling the property ultimately after

668
00:30:34,610 --> 00:30:30,659
they died after they'd passed to the

669
00:30:37,430 --> 00:30:34,620
Shermans but the Myers uh Kenneth Myers

670
00:30:39,889 --> 00:30:37,440
had incidents occur

671
00:30:42,289 --> 00:30:39,899
that were documented at least I mean and

672
00:30:45,889 --> 00:30:42,299
reported on really by uh you know we had

673
00:30:47,810 --> 00:30:45,899
Deputy Sheriff Chris porritt who uh who

674
00:30:50,510 --> 00:30:47,820
who has appeared on the docu-series and

675
00:30:52,549 --> 00:30:50,520
for the first time went public with the

676
00:30:55,010 --> 00:30:52,559
fact that back in the 80s

677
00:30:57,669 --> 00:30:55,020
he was responding to incidents and in

678
00:31:00,230 --> 00:30:57,679
his capacity as deputy sheriff

679
00:31:01,909 --> 00:31:00,240
incidents of everything from bizarre

680
00:31:06,169 --> 00:31:01,919
cattle mutilations that were occurring

681
00:31:09,289 --> 00:31:06,179
on the property to uh UFO activity and

682
00:31:13,010 --> 00:31:09,299
other strangeness that was occurring uh

683
00:31:15,850 --> 00:31:13,020
with with respect to the cattle and and

684
00:31:18,289 --> 00:31:15,860
the environment and and we've had other

685
00:31:20,510 --> 00:31:18,299
independent credible Witnesses step

686
00:31:23,450 --> 00:31:20,520
forward with their own testimony over

687
00:31:26,210 --> 00:31:23,460
the course the last few years that uh

688
00:31:27,649 --> 00:31:26,220
that have gone on record with with the

689
00:31:30,649 --> 00:31:27,659
fact that this didn't start with the

690
00:31:32,210 --> 00:31:30,659
Shermans or Bigelow this is this is

691
00:31:33,889 --> 00:31:32,220
something that has been going on for a

692
00:31:36,769 --> 00:31:33,899
very long time for decades if not

693
00:31:39,350 --> 00:31:36,779
millennia before uh

694
00:31:42,529 --> 00:31:39,360
before the present ownership or at least

695
00:31:44,149 --> 00:31:42,539
the you know the the recent decades so

696
00:31:47,930 --> 00:31:44,159
it it's something that has been

697
00:31:50,029 --> 00:31:47,940
occurring for some time and uh

698
00:31:52,549 --> 00:31:50,039
and and we're trying to get to the

699
00:31:54,710 --> 00:31:52,559
bottom of it now when you meant as soon

700
00:31:55,730 --> 00:31:54,720
as you mentioned the name Myers now I'm

701
00:31:57,830 --> 00:31:55,740
thinking that it might have been in

702
00:32:00,470 --> 00:31:57,840
George Knapp's book because I remember

703
00:32:02,630 --> 00:32:00,480
that name now or or either that or we

704
00:32:05,389 --> 00:32:02,640
talked about it before I I I'm not

705
00:32:08,149 --> 00:32:05,399
really sure but here's a question from

706
00:32:09,769 --> 00:32:08,159
the chat what would you oh what would be

707
00:32:13,730 --> 00:32:09,779
your most incredible piece of data

708
00:32:16,130 --> 00:32:13,740
evidence for uh your team has collected

709
00:32:18,250 --> 00:32:16,140
at the ranch in your opinion great great

710
00:32:20,870 --> 00:32:18,260
question Brett there's a whole

711
00:32:22,669 --> 00:32:20,880
constellation of of evidence and

712
00:32:24,049 --> 00:32:22,679
activities that have occurred that uh

713
00:32:25,310 --> 00:32:24,059
constitute I think some of the best

714
00:32:27,529 --> 00:32:25,320
evidence

715
00:32:31,310 --> 00:32:27,539
um we had a you know one of the the most

716
00:32:34,370 --> 00:32:31,320
compelling incidents and uh

717
00:32:36,230 --> 00:32:34,380
and it had we have the data from that

718
00:32:39,049 --> 00:32:36,240
incident was the experiment involving

719
00:32:40,730 --> 00:32:39,059
the astronomers we had a group of uh

720
00:32:45,049 --> 00:32:40,740
astronomers that came out to the ranch

721
00:32:46,610 --> 00:32:45,059
with their their equipment and uh they

722
00:32:47,510 --> 00:32:46,620
their equipment which was a closed

723
00:32:51,230 --> 00:32:47,520
system

724
00:32:53,750 --> 00:32:51,240
ended up being manipulated in in tandem

725
00:32:58,130 --> 00:32:53,760
with that experimental activity and they

726
00:33:01,010 --> 00:32:58,140
all witnessed uh a UFO they ended up

727
00:33:03,110 --> 00:33:01,020
witnessing right above the triangle and

728
00:33:05,090 --> 00:33:03,120
where they were trying to to Really

729
00:33:06,289 --> 00:33:05,100
Point their instruments with with a lot

730
00:33:08,470 --> 00:33:06,299
of difficulty because of the

731
00:33:13,509 --> 00:33:08,480
malfunctions uh

732
00:33:15,950 --> 00:33:13,519
a a UFO and uh so again you have

733
00:33:19,430 --> 00:33:15,960
electromagnetic anomalies equipment

734
00:33:22,330 --> 00:33:19,440
malfunction UFOs appearing that do not

735
00:33:26,810 --> 00:33:22,340
match up with anything as far as the the

736
00:33:28,970 --> 00:33:26,820
satellites or or any air traffic that is

737
00:33:30,769 --> 00:33:28,980
uh that is being monitored in the Basin

738
00:33:33,350 --> 00:33:30,779
and then you have you know Witnesses

739
00:33:35,149 --> 00:33:33,360
along with the the video evidence of of

740
00:33:38,450 --> 00:33:35,159
those events

741
00:33:40,490 --> 00:33:38,460
um and and you also have you know things

742
00:33:43,310 --> 00:33:40,500
showing up with our Spectrum analyzers

743
00:33:45,710 --> 00:33:43,320
as well all of that combined data which

744
00:33:49,669 --> 00:33:45,720
you know with each incident involves

745
00:33:52,730 --> 00:33:49,679
terabytes of data uh constitutes some of

746
00:33:54,649 --> 00:33:52,740
the the best evidence uh that that we've

747
00:33:56,810 --> 00:33:54,659
we've actually collected out on the

748
00:33:59,690 --> 00:33:56,820
property we you know we've we're about

749
00:34:01,250 --> 00:33:59,700
ready to I think unveil uh some of the

750
00:34:03,529 --> 00:34:01,260
the most compelling evidence in the

751
00:34:06,529 --> 00:34:03,539
weeks ahead and that's why we've been so

752
00:34:08,629 --> 00:34:06,539
excited to uh to unveil season four and

753
00:34:11,810 --> 00:34:08,639
this isn't meant to be a tease it's this

754
00:34:13,310 --> 00:34:11,820
is I mean I'm I'm an excited Steward and

755
00:34:15,530 --> 00:34:13,320
participant

756
00:34:19,010 --> 00:34:15,540
um what we are going to be presenting to

757
00:34:21,290 --> 00:34:19,020
the public is uh is I think some of the

758
00:34:24,470 --> 00:34:21,300
the most compelling documentary evidence

759
00:34:28,190 --> 00:34:24,480
of the the reality of the phenomena and

760
00:34:29,570 --> 00:34:28,200
and the fact that we may not be alone in

761
00:34:31,849 --> 00:34:29,580
the universe or at least that there are

762
00:34:33,710 --> 00:34:31,859
our reality is much more complex

763
00:34:37,550 --> 00:34:33,720
than it might seem

764
00:34:38,930 --> 00:34:37,560
right right and do you think that

765
00:34:42,950 --> 00:34:38,940
um

766
00:34:45,050 --> 00:34:42,960
since the last few years that the UFO

767
00:34:47,810 --> 00:34:45,060
topic is less taboo do you think that's

768
00:34:50,990 --> 00:34:47,820
actually helping with your work in some

769
00:34:54,409 --> 00:34:51,000
way sure when when you have decorated

770
00:34:56,629 --> 00:34:54,419
fighter pilots radar technicians law

771
00:34:58,010 --> 00:34:56,639
enforcement all bravely now coming

772
00:34:59,570 --> 00:34:58,020
forward with their own first-hand

773
00:35:01,970 --> 00:34:59,580
accounts

774
00:35:03,890 --> 00:35:01,980
uh

775
00:35:06,530 --> 00:35:03,900
it's

776
00:35:10,550 --> 00:35:06,540
I think it is it is opening the doors

777
00:35:11,810 --> 00:35:10,560
and at least making these topics uh much

778
00:35:14,569 --> 00:35:11,820
more

779
00:35:17,270 --> 00:35:14,579
credible to approach and discuss

780
00:35:19,010 --> 00:35:17,280
I I think there was a giggle Factor

781
00:35:20,329 --> 00:35:19,020
associated with these topics that had

782
00:35:23,150 --> 00:35:20,339
been programmed into the public

783
00:35:25,550 --> 00:35:23,160
Consciousness for decades a very active

784
00:35:27,170 --> 00:35:25,560
disinformation campaign I think we still

785
00:35:29,690 --> 00:35:27,180
see that to a degree with some of our

786
00:35:32,089 --> 00:35:29,700
media and some of the the so-called

787
00:35:34,130 --> 00:35:32,099
Skeptics out there but it doesn't change

788
00:35:37,010 --> 00:35:34,140
the fact that it it's real it is

789
00:35:39,050 --> 00:35:37,020
happening we have objects of unknown or

790
00:35:41,270 --> 00:35:39,060
origin that are violating our our

791
00:35:45,230 --> 00:35:41,280
airspace indiscriminately that are that

792
00:35:47,089 --> 00:35:45,240
are operating using uh at least some

793
00:35:49,250 --> 00:35:47,099
type of advanced physics or propulsion

794
00:35:54,050 --> 00:35:49,260
and

795
00:35:57,050 --> 00:35:54,060
witnessing a uh

796
00:36:00,310 --> 00:35:57,060
an incredible time of Discovery I mean

797
00:36:03,470 --> 00:36:00,320
this is Frontier science at its best

798
00:36:06,470 --> 00:36:03,480
and uh and I'm thankful that we're we're

799
00:36:07,550 --> 00:36:06,480
a part of hopefully cracking the door

800
00:36:10,970 --> 00:36:07,560
open

801
00:36:13,849 --> 00:36:10,980
uh to to Really bringing the reality of

802
00:36:14,650 --> 00:36:13,859
some of these these topics and incidents

803
00:36:16,970 --> 00:36:14,660
forward

804
00:36:20,750 --> 00:36:16,980
speaking of cracking the door open

805
00:36:22,670 --> 00:36:20,760
Travis Taylor Dr Travis Taylor uh he

806
00:36:25,130 --> 00:36:22,680
reveals on episode one this public

807
00:36:29,210 --> 00:36:25,140
knowledge that he's now been chosen as

808
00:36:32,810 --> 00:36:29,220
Chief science uh Chief scientist for the

809
00:36:34,970 --> 00:36:32,820
uh pentagon's UAP task force that was

810
00:36:38,030 --> 00:36:34,980
pretty exciting for you to reveal right

811
00:36:42,950 --> 00:36:38,040
off the bat well yeah I mean and it was

812
00:36:44,690 --> 00:36:42,960
shocking I mean to to learn that the the

813
00:36:47,270 --> 00:36:44,700
Consulting physicists that have been

814
00:36:49,849 --> 00:36:47,280
brought in was had been acting for

815
00:36:52,490 --> 00:36:49,859
several years as the chief scientist

816
00:36:55,190 --> 00:36:52,500
for the pentagon's UAP task force and

817
00:36:56,690 --> 00:36:55,200
that he'd been doing so you know really

818
00:36:59,630 --> 00:36:56,700
Bound by

819
00:37:02,569 --> 00:36:59,640
National Security Oaths and and not able

820
00:37:06,530 --> 00:37:02,579
to to tell us it

821
00:37:09,410 --> 00:37:06,540
it was it was aggravating to members of

822
00:37:13,010 --> 00:37:09,420
my team there were there were several of

823
00:37:15,829 --> 00:37:13,020
my team that uh that were angry with Dr

824
00:37:17,990 --> 00:37:15,839
Taylor to be candid they felt betrayed

825
00:37:19,550 --> 00:37:18,000
they felt like he should have he should

826
00:37:21,410 --> 00:37:19,560
have been more forthcoming that he

827
00:37:24,530 --> 00:37:21,420
should have revealed that to us but Dr

828
00:37:27,770 --> 00:37:24,540
Taylor was very quick to

829
00:37:29,750 --> 00:37:27,780
to point out that he was he was bound by

830
00:37:32,870 --> 00:37:29,760
certain confidentiality agreements in

831
00:37:36,050 --> 00:37:32,880
his role and and was not in a position

832
00:37:37,730 --> 00:37:36,060
to to breach that and I well of course I

833
00:37:39,829 --> 00:37:37,740
mean I have to respect that I mean yeah

834
00:37:41,510 --> 00:37:39,839
when it comes down to it I I have to

835
00:37:44,150 --> 00:37:41,520
respect that he was willing to keep

836
00:37:46,430 --> 00:37:44,160
those confidences and that he really did

837
00:37:48,950 --> 00:37:46,440
take his role seriously this wasn't just

838
00:37:52,329 --> 00:37:48,960
some Lark this wasn't some live-action

839
00:37:56,410 --> 00:37:52,339
role-playing baloney you know Dr Taylor

840
00:37:58,670 --> 00:37:56,420
was was taking not only that that that

841
00:38:02,630 --> 00:37:58,680
responsibility seriously but he was

842
00:38:05,510 --> 00:38:02,640
continuing to act in his role as a

843
00:38:10,730 --> 00:38:05,520
as a physicist and as as a part of our

844
00:38:12,589 --> 00:38:10,740
team our expanded team so I it it was it

845
00:38:14,870 --> 00:38:12,599
was something we had to work through as

846
00:38:17,210 --> 00:38:14,880
a team to be honest with you yeah it was

847
00:38:19,430 --> 00:38:17,220
not met with a lot of enthusiasm I will

848
00:38:22,670 --> 00:38:19,440
tell you uh there was a lot of

849
00:38:25,430 --> 00:38:22,680
hesitation and there were some there was

850
00:38:28,490 --> 00:38:25,440
there were some hard feelings I mean it

851
00:38:31,130 --> 00:38:28,500
dragon in particular was pissed off yeah

852
00:38:34,310 --> 00:38:31,140
well he likes being pissed off right

853
00:38:35,990 --> 00:38:34,320
well yeah I mean he yeah he felt so he

854
00:38:38,089 --> 00:38:36,000
felt like that that was something that

855
00:38:39,770 --> 00:38:38,099
should have been disclosed but there

856
00:38:41,089 --> 00:38:39,780
have been all sorts of Revelations and I

857
00:38:43,490 --> 00:38:41,099
think that's what you're going to see

858
00:38:45,430 --> 00:38:43,500
with this season four that starts airing

859
00:38:48,349 --> 00:38:45,440
tonight is you're going to see

860
00:38:51,170 --> 00:38:48,359
Revelations the 14 episodes that we'll

861
00:38:53,510 --> 00:38:51,180
be unveiling in the weeks ahead

862
00:38:55,550 --> 00:38:53,520
um are revelatory and and I think it's

863
00:38:58,310 --> 00:38:55,560
it's a part of the journey we're it's a

864
00:39:00,589 --> 00:38:58,320
learning process as well there is a lot

865
00:39:03,109 --> 00:39:00,599
that we are learning I mean there are

866
00:39:06,290 --> 00:39:03,119
dead ends there are experiments and

867
00:39:08,750 --> 00:39:06,300
activities that that you know are you

868
00:39:11,450 --> 00:39:08,760
know that that don't bear fruit and

869
00:39:13,550 --> 00:39:11,460
that's okay yeah um I

870
00:39:16,069 --> 00:39:13,560
it's it's all part of the learning

871
00:39:18,410 --> 00:39:16,079
process and it's it's part of science

872
00:39:20,690 --> 00:39:18,420
Discovery Well it's like a fishing

873
00:39:22,430 --> 00:39:20,700
Expedition you know you you don't know

874
00:39:25,250 --> 00:39:22,440
what's going to happen and something

875
00:39:28,010 --> 00:39:25,260
that's non-repeatable you know you just

876
00:39:29,770 --> 00:39:28,020
or you try to make it repeatable but you

877
00:39:33,170 --> 00:39:29,780
know like again we were talking about

878
00:39:34,430 --> 00:39:33,180
1.6 gigahertz or I believe that's what

879
00:39:37,130 --> 00:39:34,440
it was

880
00:39:38,030 --> 00:39:37,140
um that was something that you use to

881
00:39:40,310 --> 00:39:38,040
try to

882
00:39:42,829 --> 00:39:40,320
agitate or whatever you were trying to

883
00:39:44,930 --> 00:39:42,839
do to try to make something uh occur

884
00:39:47,870 --> 00:39:44,940
which uh I don't want to give too much

885
00:39:51,410 --> 00:39:47,880
away but it's it's very interesting

886
00:39:53,870 --> 00:39:51,420
yeah well one thing that really I think

887
00:39:56,510 --> 00:39:53,880
sets our our effort apart is we are

888
00:39:59,390 --> 00:39:56,520
really not led by a narrative we are not

889
00:40:02,349 --> 00:39:59,400
led by an inherited narrative we are led

890
00:40:06,829 --> 00:40:02,359
by the data we are a data-driven team

891
00:40:09,950 --> 00:40:06,839
and and those findings uh are are are

892
00:40:12,829 --> 00:40:09,960
continuing to drive

893
00:40:16,609 --> 00:40:12,839
the next steps that we are taking and

894
00:40:18,770 --> 00:40:16,619
you'll see that I think manifest in in

895
00:40:20,270 --> 00:40:18,780
the docu-series you're going to see that

896
00:40:22,609 --> 00:40:20,280
in our interaction that's one thing

897
00:40:26,210 --> 00:40:22,619
we've tried to be I I've tried to be

898
00:40:27,950 --> 00:40:26,220
painfully transparent to a fault to the

899
00:40:30,650 --> 00:40:27,960
point where I'm taking advantage of my

900
00:40:33,950 --> 00:40:30,660
own transparency and honesty

901
00:40:35,210 --> 00:40:33,960
and genuine nature ends up being taken

902
00:40:39,589 --> 00:40:35,220
advantage of

903
00:40:42,829 --> 00:40:39,599
by people at times that have

904
00:40:45,349 --> 00:40:42,839
ulterior motives and uh and

905
00:40:48,589 --> 00:40:45,359
it it is what it is but I

906
00:40:49,550 --> 00:40:48,599
I am trying to Endeavor to to allow the

907
00:40:51,349 --> 00:40:49,560
public

908
00:40:55,910 --> 00:40:51,359
a

909
00:41:00,349 --> 00:40:55,920
I'm

910
00:41:02,270 --> 00:41:00,359
steward I believe that these things

911
00:41:04,609 --> 00:41:02,280
should be shared with the public I I'm

912
00:41:06,589 --> 00:41:04,619
not profiting personally off of this

913
00:41:09,050 --> 00:41:06,599
I haven't taken one penny personally I

914
00:41:12,050 --> 00:41:09,060
mean this is this is truly a labor of

915
00:41:13,609 --> 00:41:12,060
love and it's it's something that drives

916
00:41:16,910 --> 00:41:13,619
me I mean I'm trying to get the answers

917
00:41:20,089 --> 00:41:16,920
more than anyone and share those answers

918
00:41:21,770 --> 00:41:20,099
and those findings with everyone as part

919
00:41:23,450 --> 00:41:21,780
of this collaborative effort and I I

920
00:41:24,290 --> 00:41:23,460
hope people

921
00:41:26,210 --> 00:41:24,300
um

922
00:41:32,329 --> 00:41:26,220
are

923
00:41:35,450 --> 00:41:32,339
see uh these topics explored for the

924
00:41:37,550 --> 00:41:35,460
first time in this way yeah yeah I think

925
00:41:38,930 --> 00:41:37,560
it's gonna it's gonna be I think it's

926
00:41:40,550 --> 00:41:38,940
gonna be your best season the way it

927
00:41:45,310 --> 00:41:40,560
kicked off it just seems like it will be

928
00:41:48,170 --> 00:41:45,320
uh here's a question from uh again Golf

929
00:41:51,109 --> 00:41:48,180
and uh Brandon thank you for your Fresh

930
00:41:53,390 --> 00:41:51,119
Approach to this Roger this Ranch

931
00:41:55,790 --> 00:41:53,400
project have you been able to get any

932
00:41:58,190 --> 00:41:55,800
answers from military confirming that

933
00:42:01,190 --> 00:41:58,200
it's their Black Hawk helicopters you

934
00:42:02,810 --> 00:42:01,200
have observed uh

935
00:42:08,569 --> 00:42:02,820
I

936
00:42:12,170 --> 00:42:08,579
other than uh

937
00:42:13,510 --> 00:42:12,180
we're we're a bit frustrated but uh I

938
00:42:16,730 --> 00:42:13,520
I'll I'll

939
00:42:19,790 --> 00:42:16,740
that's a very very good question

940
00:42:22,010 --> 00:42:19,800
and I wish I had the answers that's part

941
00:42:24,230 --> 00:42:22,020
of the mystery

942
00:42:26,990 --> 00:42:24,240
yeah I think we were talking about this

943
00:42:30,230 --> 00:42:27,000
earlier more or less you know uh Mary

944
00:42:32,030 --> 00:42:30,240
Grace is uh asking could the unusual

945
00:42:33,890 --> 00:42:32,040
Metals materials have been left from an

946
00:42:36,530 --> 00:42:33,900
asteroid Crash from long ago that's a

947
00:42:38,150 --> 00:42:36,540
great good although the experts that

948
00:42:40,430 --> 00:42:38,160
have analyzed the material have said

949
00:42:43,250 --> 00:42:40,440
that it's not naturally occurring that

950
00:42:44,510 --> 00:42:43,260
the way the way this material is fused

951
00:42:48,950 --> 00:42:44,520
together

952
00:42:50,870 --> 00:42:48,960
uh appears to be manufactured and to

953
00:42:55,010 --> 00:42:50,880
explain why

954
00:42:57,290 --> 00:42:55,020
you know a manufactured material of this

955
00:43:00,410 --> 00:42:57,300
composition would be buried

956
00:43:01,670 --> 00:43:00,420
over 400 feet down into the the depths

957
00:43:06,530 --> 00:43:01,680
of the Mesa

958
00:43:08,750 --> 00:43:06,540
I it's it is really

959
00:43:10,790 --> 00:43:08,760
intriguing it's something that we are

960
00:43:13,130 --> 00:43:10,800
trying to uh

961
00:43:15,650 --> 00:43:13,140
to get the answers to and you'll see a

962
00:43:19,309 --> 00:43:15,660
lot of our efforts unfold we're excited

963
00:43:23,569 --> 00:43:19,319
to to have everyone along for the uh

964
00:43:25,430 --> 00:43:23,579
for the journey now uh this uh you know

965
00:43:28,130 --> 00:43:25,440
I didn't catch all of the series last

966
00:43:31,490 --> 00:43:28,140
year but I saw that you had some people

967
00:43:33,589 --> 00:43:31,500
they were out out interviewing

968
00:43:36,050 --> 00:43:33,599
people around the ranch is that is that

969
00:43:37,550 --> 00:43:36,060
what was going on uh they were briefly

970
00:43:40,250 --> 00:43:37,560
on

971
00:43:41,569 --> 00:43:40,260
is that is that something new this year

972
00:43:43,609 --> 00:43:41,579
are you

973
00:43:47,390 --> 00:43:43,619
what was that again there was a there

974
00:43:49,670 --> 00:43:47,400
was a a a woman and a man that were

975
00:43:52,430 --> 00:43:49,680
going to interview people

976
00:43:55,790 --> 00:43:52,440
uh in your briefing at the beginning

977
00:43:58,130 --> 00:43:55,800
oh well we we have we have a you know

978
00:44:00,589 --> 00:43:58,140
our my Ranch caretakers Candace Lindy

979
00:44:03,050 --> 00:44:00,599
and Tom Lewis are actively engaged as

980
00:44:05,569 --> 00:44:03,060
well as Jim Morse who has been kind of

981
00:44:07,370 --> 00:44:05,579
my my community liaison since day one

982
00:44:09,770 --> 00:44:07,380
since the day I acquired this property

983
00:44:12,589 --> 00:44:09,780
Candace Lindy I think is important to

984
00:44:14,750 --> 00:44:12,599
note is a published Anthropologist she's

985
00:44:16,490 --> 00:44:14,760
actually published a book on

986
00:44:19,309 --> 00:44:16,500
anthropology that has been used as a

987
00:44:22,010 --> 00:44:19,319
textbook she's been uh all over the

988
00:44:25,010 --> 00:44:22,020
world with archaeological digs and

989
00:44:28,309 --> 00:44:25,020
research studies and she uh she's helped

990
00:44:30,470 --> 00:44:28,319
lead the effort to pull together the uh

991
00:44:31,670 --> 00:44:30,480
the history of the area and some of the

992
00:44:34,730 --> 00:44:31,680
the

993
00:44:36,530 --> 00:44:34,740
um historical record uh as well as

994
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:36,540
engaging with the community I mean Jim

995
00:44:40,250 --> 00:44:39,050
Morse has been such a

996
00:44:42,050 --> 00:44:40,260
[Music]

997
00:44:44,870 --> 00:44:42,060
such an incredible

998
00:44:47,030 --> 00:44:44,880
uh liaison and Advocate with the

999
00:44:48,230 --> 00:44:47,040
community he has a special love for the

1000
00:44:51,109 --> 00:44:48,240
Native American

1001
00:44:53,630 --> 00:44:51,119
people and has established I think some

1002
00:44:56,450 --> 00:44:53,640
really special relationships with tribal

1003
00:44:58,849 --> 00:44:56,460
Elders as spiritual leaders and and our

1004
00:45:00,650 --> 00:44:58,859
neighbors we want to be good neighbors

1005
00:45:04,010 --> 00:45:00,660
we want to

1006
00:45:08,870 --> 00:45:04,020
always be respectful

1007
00:45:11,870 --> 00:45:08,880
of the the cultural heritage and the the

1008
00:45:15,290 --> 00:45:11,880
history of the area and and I think that

1009
00:45:17,870 --> 00:45:15,300
the special history that attends the uh

1010
00:45:22,309 --> 00:45:17,880
the culture that we are we're fortunate

1011
00:45:24,650 --> 00:45:22,319
to be uh involved with now skin you're

1012
00:45:27,470 --> 00:45:24,660
talking about the Native American

1013
00:45:31,010 --> 00:45:27,480
uh Native American culture in that area

1014
00:45:33,349 --> 00:45:31,020
and that's basically what a skin walker

1015
00:45:36,410 --> 00:45:33,359
the description of a skinwalker is a

1016
00:45:38,809 --> 00:45:36,420
Native American term sure it's it's from

1017
00:45:41,750 --> 00:45:38,819
Native American Legend the skinwalker is

1018
00:45:44,750 --> 00:45:41,760
a shape-shifting demonic entity uh

1019
00:45:48,410 --> 00:45:44,760
essentially a Native American witch or

1020
00:45:51,710 --> 00:45:48,420
warlock that in essence sells its soul

1021
00:45:56,890 --> 00:45:51,720
in exchange for the ability to to take

1022
00:46:00,770 --> 00:45:56,900
on the skin of uh various animal forms

1023
00:46:03,670 --> 00:46:00,780
uh and and and and and have immortality

1024
00:46:06,230 --> 00:46:03,680
it's it's it for lack of a better

1025
00:46:08,329 --> 00:46:06,240
description I would say it's it's like a

1026
00:46:10,370 --> 00:46:08,339
Native American uh

1027
00:46:12,710 --> 00:46:10,380
it's the Native American version of a

1028
00:46:14,690 --> 00:46:12,720
werewolf to a degree but it's something

1029
00:46:18,890 --> 00:46:14,700
that they take very seriously

1030
00:46:20,630 --> 00:46:18,900
uh and the the ridge the Mesa Plateau

1031
00:46:23,690 --> 00:46:20,640
that runs the expanse of the property

1032
00:46:26,390 --> 00:46:23,700
from east and west uh we're told was

1033
00:46:27,950 --> 00:46:26,400
cursed was was cursed to be in the path

1034
00:46:32,089 --> 00:46:27,960
of the skinwalker

1035
00:46:35,390 --> 00:46:32,099
uh many generations ago and is part of

1036
00:46:37,670 --> 00:46:35,400
the the local lore and and really the

1037
00:46:41,210 --> 00:46:37,680
historical narrative that attends this

1038
00:46:43,490 --> 00:46:41,220
property uh it's it's an intriguing

1039
00:46:46,250 --> 00:46:43,500
aspect of the uh the history of this

1040
00:46:48,109 --> 00:46:46,260
property that that I think we we have

1041
00:46:50,870 --> 00:46:48,119
barely scratched the surface of I mean

1042
00:46:53,150 --> 00:46:50,880
we've it's difficult to address some of

1043
00:46:56,390 --> 00:46:53,160
those topics as I've mentioned we try

1044
00:46:58,370 --> 00:46:56,400
not to be led by uh by a narrative by an

1045
00:47:00,349 --> 00:46:58,380
inherited narrative we're being led by

1046
00:47:03,290 --> 00:47:00,359
the data and being data driven and

1047
00:47:05,569 --> 00:47:03,300
trying to use scientific instrumentation

1048
00:47:07,430 --> 00:47:05,579
to measure to document that which we're

1049
00:47:09,770 --> 00:47:07,440
interacting with it's a little bit more

1050
00:47:13,730 --> 00:47:09,780
elusive when you're dealing with uh

1051
00:47:16,130 --> 00:47:13,740
some of this the other phenomena uh that

1052
00:47:17,870 --> 00:47:16,140
uh that many people consider to be more

1053
00:47:19,130 --> 00:47:17,880
of a spiritual

1054
00:47:22,609 --> 00:47:19,140
nature

1055
00:47:26,030 --> 00:47:22,619
who do do you know who was the first to

1056
00:47:29,030 --> 00:47:26,040
name that Skinwalker Ranch yeah it was

1057
00:47:31,069 --> 00:47:29,040
Bigelow's team so they it was the

1058
00:47:34,849 --> 00:47:31,079
nickname given by Bigelow's team back in

1059
00:47:37,370 --> 00:47:34,859
the 90s uh after serving on the property

1060
00:47:39,290 --> 00:47:37,380
living on the property I you know they

1061
00:47:42,890 --> 00:47:39,300
started referring to it as Skinwalker

1062
00:47:47,210 --> 00:47:42,900
Ranch as opposed to the Utah ranch or

1063
00:47:49,609 --> 00:47:47,220
the Sherman Ranch and it stuck and it

1064
00:47:53,030 --> 00:47:49,619
you know they felt like the the history

1065
00:47:55,430 --> 00:47:53,040
and the Native American influence and

1066
00:47:57,109 --> 00:47:55,440
the the curse

1067
00:48:00,710 --> 00:47:57,119
that uh

1068
00:48:03,050 --> 00:48:00,720
that attended this property was uh was

1069
00:48:04,670 --> 00:48:03,060
an was an element that they they felt

1070
00:48:07,790 --> 00:48:04,680
was important and

1071
00:48:09,890 --> 00:48:07,800
was part of part of the overall

1072
00:48:12,410 --> 00:48:09,900
investigation at the time

1073
00:48:14,510 --> 00:48:12,420
I'm sure that's a trademark name but

1074
00:48:16,130 --> 00:48:14,520
it's a it's a great it's a great name

1075
00:48:19,130 --> 00:48:16,140
actually

1076
00:48:21,829 --> 00:48:19,140
yeah it's it's uh

1077
00:48:22,970 --> 00:48:21,839
yeah it's it's an interesting part of

1078
00:48:24,950 --> 00:48:22,980
the history

1079
00:48:27,589 --> 00:48:24,960
we'll bring on more questions anyone

1080
00:48:29,390 --> 00:48:27,599
yeah here's come on right now John uh

1081
00:48:32,750 --> 00:48:29,400
Burbage wants to know any thoughts on

1082
00:48:34,910 --> 00:48:32,760
the 1700s Spanish missionary

1083
00:48:37,370 --> 00:48:34,920
seeing the fiery orange sphere in the

1084
00:48:39,829 --> 00:48:37,380
ranch yeah I've heard I've heard of

1085
00:48:42,589 --> 00:48:39,839
these accounts I'm trying to to verify

1086
00:48:44,390 --> 00:48:42,599
to to see if there's a more credible

1087
00:48:48,050 --> 00:48:44,400
documentation that would back that up

1088
00:48:51,470 --> 00:48:48,060
again and there's a lot of uh there's a

1089
00:48:53,690 --> 00:48:51,480
lot of history that has been passed down

1090
00:48:56,390 --> 00:48:53,700
uh Generations on this property I mean

1091
00:48:58,910 --> 00:48:56,400
even the old homesteaders uh their

1092
00:49:00,829 --> 00:48:58,920
family histories speak of strange

1093
00:49:03,589 --> 00:49:00,839
phenomena that occurred on this property

1094
00:49:05,510 --> 00:49:03,599
and and I think going back to you know

1095
00:49:08,650 --> 00:49:05,520
the the Spanish missionaries and some of

1096
00:49:11,329 --> 00:49:08,660
the early exploration in the Basin

1097
00:49:13,569 --> 00:49:11,339
there have been reports for a very long

1098
00:49:15,770 --> 00:49:13,579
time

1099
00:49:20,270 --> 00:49:15,780
I'm trying to get to the bottom of it

1100
00:49:21,050 --> 00:49:20,280
right now I know back when

1101
00:49:24,829 --> 00:49:21,060
um

1102
00:49:26,690 --> 00:49:24,839
the uh Jason just lost their name uh the

1103
00:49:28,609 --> 00:49:26,700
the Gormans but it wasn't the Gormans

1104
00:49:31,190 --> 00:49:28,619
the Shermans the Shermans were there

1105
00:49:34,069 --> 00:49:31,200
they had seen those the strange wolf

1106
00:49:37,190 --> 00:49:34,079
that I remember the oversized wolf that

1107
00:49:38,990 --> 00:49:37,200
came in I I believe attacked the dog or

1108
00:49:40,730 --> 00:49:39,000
something I can't remember exactly but

1109
00:49:42,890 --> 00:49:40,740
they shot it and then they saw like the

1110
00:49:46,190 --> 00:49:42,900
footprints disappeared and there was no

1111
00:49:49,130 --> 00:49:46,200
blood uh there are all sorts of accounts

1112
00:49:51,170 --> 00:49:49,140
crazy stuff now I want to know has

1113
00:49:53,270 --> 00:49:51,180
anyone since you've owned the ranch seen

1114
00:49:54,530 --> 00:49:53,280
any strange animals there

1115
00:49:58,250 --> 00:49:54,540
you know

1116
00:50:00,530 --> 00:49:58,260
I I'd mentioned my my liaison Community

1117
00:50:02,569 --> 00:50:00,540
liaison Jim Morse

1118
00:50:03,890 --> 00:50:02,579
who is uh you know former military

1119
00:50:05,210 --> 00:50:03,900
police

1120
00:50:09,710 --> 00:50:05,220
uh

1121
00:50:12,770 --> 00:50:09,720
very sober individual Jim

1122
00:50:16,670 --> 00:50:12,780
with another it is a witness at his side

1123
00:50:19,490 --> 00:50:16,680
he had an experience where he saw you

1124
00:50:23,450 --> 00:50:19,500
know and a figure with red glowing eyes

1125
00:50:26,329 --> 00:50:23,460
this uh creature that was standing up on

1126
00:50:29,750 --> 00:50:26,339
two legs that's that that sat stared at

1127
00:50:31,849 --> 00:50:29,760
him from a distance and then proceeded

1128
00:50:33,470 --> 00:50:31,859
to disappear up either up or into the

1129
00:50:36,109 --> 00:50:33,480
Mesa and

1130
00:50:39,109 --> 00:50:36,119
and I've never I've known Jim

1131
00:50:41,630 --> 00:50:39,119
uh since I was 18 years old I met Jim

1132
00:50:43,430 --> 00:50:41,640
back in 1991 he was developing an office

1133
00:50:45,589 --> 00:50:43,440
part called The Towers of South town

1134
00:50:47,450 --> 00:50:45,599
he's been involved with a lot of

1135
00:50:49,069 --> 00:50:47,460
Endeavors he's raised millions of

1136
00:50:50,750 --> 00:50:49,079
dollars for Native American Charities

1137
00:50:52,190 --> 00:50:50,760
over decades with American Indian

1138
00:50:55,069 --> 00:50:52,200
services

1139
00:50:58,069 --> 00:50:55,079
he's uh he's a remarkable individual and

1140
00:51:00,829 --> 00:50:58,079
I've never never seen him exaggerate

1141
00:51:04,190 --> 00:51:00,839
I've never seen him make anything up

1142
00:51:08,150 --> 00:51:04,200
like this I mean I he uh

1143
00:51:10,670 --> 00:51:08,160
he was shaken he was visibly shaken when

1144
00:51:12,890 --> 00:51:10,680
uh when coming back and telling this you

1145
00:51:15,290 --> 00:51:12,900
know giving his account and we're

1146
00:51:17,930 --> 00:51:15,300
telling everyone what what he and the

1147
00:51:21,829 --> 00:51:17,940
individual that was with him witnessed

1148
00:51:23,569 --> 00:51:21,839
and uh and so I I have to I I mean

1149
00:51:25,970 --> 00:51:23,579
that's part of the record you know

1150
00:51:27,410 --> 00:51:25,980
that's a data point uh have I seen

1151
00:51:30,410 --> 00:51:27,420
anything like that no

1152
00:51:32,390 --> 00:51:30,420
uh most of our team have you know they

1153
00:51:34,849 --> 00:51:32,400
have yet to experience or or witness

1154
00:51:37,069 --> 00:51:34,859
anything uh of that nature it doesn't

1155
00:51:38,510 --> 00:51:37,079
mean that it isn't real it just means

1156
00:51:42,230 --> 00:51:38,520
that

1157
00:51:43,190 --> 00:51:42,240
um I I don't think I have enough

1158
00:51:45,890 --> 00:51:43,200
um

1159
00:51:48,770 --> 00:51:45,900
I don't think I have enough data to

1160
00:51:50,630 --> 00:51:48,780
really make a definitive statement like

1161
00:51:53,510 --> 00:51:50,640
I can make I can make definitive

1162
00:51:54,950 --> 00:51:53,520
statements relative to UFOs that have

1163
00:51:56,510 --> 00:51:54,960
been witnessed because I've seen it for

1164
00:51:57,910 --> 00:51:56,520
myself with my own eyes with multiple

1165
00:52:01,069 --> 00:51:57,920
Witnesses

1166
00:52:05,750 --> 00:52:01,079
occurring simultaneous with with with

1167
00:52:07,490 --> 00:52:05,760
other phenomena but uh yeah yeah some of

1168
00:52:10,069 --> 00:52:07,500
these other topics are a bit

1169
00:52:11,329 --> 00:52:10,079
a bit more Elusive and frankly

1170
00:52:14,329 --> 00:52:11,339
controversial

1171
00:52:16,670 --> 00:52:14,339
right for good reason yeah you know it's

1172
00:52:18,650 --> 00:52:16,680
funny uh the red eye thing has been

1173
00:52:20,510 --> 00:52:18,660
mentioned a number of times Mothman and

1174
00:52:22,130 --> 00:52:20,520
you know I mean people have seen these

1175
00:52:25,490 --> 00:52:22,140
tall figures with red eyes which is

1176
00:52:27,770 --> 00:52:25,500
bizarre uh here's a question from

1177
00:52:29,569 --> 00:52:27,780
uh someone here is there anything about

1178
00:52:31,190 --> 00:52:29,579
the ranch that you cannot speak about

1179
00:52:34,910 --> 00:52:31,200
now I don't know if that will just lead

1180
00:52:37,490 --> 00:52:34,920
people people to speculate not really to

1181
00:52:39,710 --> 00:52:37,500
to other than that which we are going to

1182
00:52:42,109 --> 00:52:39,720
reveal over the next few months in the

1183
00:52:44,870 --> 00:52:42,119
docu-series effort

1184
00:52:46,490 --> 00:52:44,880
um there isn't anything that I'm not

1185
00:52:49,130 --> 00:52:46,500
willing to talk about or can't talk

1186
00:52:51,470 --> 00:52:49,140
about I mean this is a private and

1187
00:52:54,349 --> 00:52:51,480
entirely privately funded Endeavor you

1188
00:52:56,690 --> 00:52:54,359
know I'm not under any national security

1189
00:52:59,390 --> 00:52:56,700
Oaths I've you know I hold no security

1190
00:53:02,150 --> 00:52:59,400
clearances I'm not involved with with

1191
00:53:04,490 --> 00:53:02,160
any other entity relative to the ranch I

1192
00:53:07,970 --> 00:53:04,500
mean I this is my privately funded

1193
00:53:10,910 --> 00:53:07,980
investigation that I happen to be making

1194
00:53:13,730 --> 00:53:10,920
public I'm allowing cameras and

1195
00:53:16,549 --> 00:53:13,740
documentary professionals to uh to come

1196
00:53:19,309 --> 00:53:16,559
in and and and help

1197
00:53:21,049 --> 00:53:19,319
build a record of what is really

1198
00:53:23,690 --> 00:53:21,059
occurring on this property with my team

1199
00:53:26,870 --> 00:53:23,700
and present it to the public and I'm I'm

1200
00:53:30,309 --> 00:53:26,880
excited by that and I I don't intend to

1201
00:53:34,250 --> 00:53:30,319
withhold anything so uh

1202
00:53:37,549 --> 00:53:34,260
it's it's uh it I don't own I don't have

1203
00:53:40,609 --> 00:53:37,559
a corner on the truth and yeah I I

1204
00:53:42,230 --> 00:53:40,619
certainly uh again consider myself a

1205
00:53:44,510 --> 00:53:42,240
steward I think it's my responsibility

1206
00:53:47,390 --> 00:53:44,520
to bring these things forward as uh as

1207
00:53:50,510 --> 00:53:47,400
they manifest and as we we parse the

1208
00:53:53,750 --> 00:53:50,520
data and have have what I believe to be

1209
00:53:56,990 --> 00:53:53,760
you know events of Merit that occur

1210
00:53:58,370 --> 00:53:57,000
here we go with another question here uh

1211
00:54:01,190 --> 00:53:58,380
let's see

1212
00:54:03,710 --> 00:54:01,200
do you think that anything may be Pub

1213
00:54:06,710 --> 00:54:03,720
publishable in a scientific journal at

1214
00:54:09,349 --> 00:54:06,720
some point yeah I think at some point we

1215
00:54:11,089 --> 00:54:09,359
will publish we're still we're still

1216
00:54:14,569 --> 00:54:11,099
Gathering data we're still repeating

1217
00:54:18,829 --> 00:54:14,579
experiments uh we're still trying to

1218
00:54:22,309 --> 00:54:18,839
develop enough of a of a record uh and

1219
00:54:26,210 --> 00:54:22,319
enough of a data set to actually uh

1220
00:54:29,569 --> 00:54:26,220
present a meaningful research paper for

1221
00:54:31,790 --> 00:54:29,579
peer review on uh on a number of these

1222
00:54:33,650 --> 00:54:31,800
topics and events and incidents that

1223
00:54:36,470 --> 00:54:33,660
have occurred uh

1224
00:54:39,710 --> 00:54:36,480
and so it's it's something we intend to

1225
00:54:41,809 --> 00:54:39,720
do in time is it is that my priority no

1226
00:54:43,910 --> 00:54:41,819
I mean this is my investigation I'm not

1227
00:54:46,430 --> 00:54:43,920
doing I mean I'm doing this for me I'm

1228
00:54:49,010 --> 00:54:46,440
not trying to convince anyone as much as

1229
00:54:53,210 --> 00:54:49,020
I'm excited about it and I'm excited to

1230
00:54:56,150 --> 00:54:53,220
share the results the findings uh

1231
00:54:58,069 --> 00:54:56,160
not to I hope this doesn't sound bad but

1232
00:55:04,430 --> 00:54:58,079
I'm

1233
00:55:07,250 --> 00:55:04,440
trying to understand the nature of what

1234
00:55:11,150 --> 00:55:07,260
is happening and I'm and I happen to

1235
00:55:14,569 --> 00:55:11,160
to be open to allowing the public to to

1236
00:55:15,530 --> 00:55:14,579
have a front row seat and to to a

1237
00:55:19,790 --> 00:55:15,540
company

1238
00:55:21,650 --> 00:55:19,800
the the team on this journey so I that's

1239
00:55:24,049 --> 00:55:21,660
a long-winded answer but yeah that's my

1240
00:55:27,109 --> 00:55:24,059
intention is that Mike is that the

1241
00:55:29,329 --> 00:55:27,119
driving goal I mean at the appropriate

1242
00:55:31,370 --> 00:55:29,339
time yes but you know we're still in the

1243
00:55:34,069 --> 00:55:31,380
middle of repeating experiments and

1244
00:55:36,430 --> 00:55:34,079
Gathering Gathering as much data and

1245
00:55:39,549 --> 00:55:36,440
intelligence as we can

1246
00:55:43,609 --> 00:55:39,559
well I think you're doing a great job

1247
00:55:46,849 --> 00:55:43,619
it's been uh it's been a really fun

1248
00:55:49,849 --> 00:55:46,859
evening speaking to you tonight and The

1249
00:55:52,549 --> 00:55:49,859
Show Goes live uh in just about an hour

1250
00:55:55,670 --> 00:55:52,559
I believe no at 10 o'clock do I have

1251
00:55:57,890 --> 00:55:55,680
that yes about an hour right now 10 9

1252
00:55:59,450 --> 00:55:57,900
Central Time coming right up and I do

1253
00:56:02,870 --> 00:55:59,460
have the graphic here I'm just going to

1254
00:56:05,030 --> 00:56:02,880
pop that up for a second well and I in

1255
00:56:07,490 --> 00:56:05,040
parting I Just Want to Thank You Martin

1256
00:56:09,589 --> 00:56:07,500
I want to thank everyone else

1257
00:56:11,150 --> 00:56:09,599
thank you for following our journey and

1258
00:56:13,010 --> 00:56:11,160
for your sincere interest in these

1259
00:56:15,829 --> 00:56:13,020
topics I promise I'm not going to let

1260
00:56:17,150 --> 00:56:15,839
you down we we uh we we want to get to

1261
00:56:20,329 --> 00:56:17,160
the bottom of the truth and we're going

1262
00:56:21,710 --> 00:56:20,339
to present it as it unfolds so again I I

1263
00:56:24,170 --> 00:56:21,720
just wanted those to be kind of my

1264
00:56:25,910 --> 00:56:24,180
closing comments and and just want to

1265
00:56:28,250 --> 00:56:25,920
thank everyone especially those people

1266
00:56:30,049 --> 00:56:28,260
who are kind that are sincere Seekers

1267
00:56:31,790 --> 00:56:30,059
and guess what it's okay to be skeptical

1268
00:56:34,069 --> 00:56:31,800
to be critical

1269
00:56:36,349 --> 00:56:34,079
um I was there once as well but I I

1270
00:56:39,890 --> 00:56:36,359
think I I think we'll all hopefully

1271
00:56:43,069 --> 00:56:39,900
benefit from uh from what will unfold

1272
00:56:44,990 --> 00:56:43,079
here and be uh discovered so thank you

1273
00:56:47,809 --> 00:56:45,000
so much Martin all right thank you now

1274
00:56:49,309 --> 00:56:47,819
and take care take care all right all

1275
00:56:52,549 --> 00:56:49,319
right everyone so we'll be back next

1276
00:56:54,490 --> 00:56:52,559
week with Dan Hare and I want to thank

1277
00:56:58,309 --> 00:56:54,500
you all for watching our show tonight

1278
00:56:59,950 --> 00:56:58,319
and remember we'll see you next week and

1279
00:57:11,200 --> 00:56:59,960
keep your eyes to the sky

1280
00:57:11,210 --> 00:57:15,490
[Music]

1281
00:57:22,370 --> 00:57:18,000
thank you